Inception

[CUDDLEMONSTER]

if we're talking straight visual spectacle i think the best director for that kind of thing is alejandro jodorowsky. obviously, no digital work in his movies and they're still some of the most visually impressive ever made.



also, i heard a rumor that he's planning two new movies. one is going to be a gangster noir movie and the other is (i shit you not) the son of el topo.

[oyolar]

Sleazy-Leo's character might be the only one who creates projections in other people's dreams (if we want to say they are other people's), but maybe that can be chalked up to the fact that he is extremely mentally unstable within the dreams. And there are examples of other people affecting the dream. Like when Levitt creates the paradoxical staircase to get behind the projection chasing him in the hotel. He directly changes the make-up of the dream (I also wish they would have done more with that as well). I thought they didn't get too crazy with the dream worlds because if the dream worlds are too ridiculous, it becomes very easy for the dreamer's projections to realize the dream is being intruded upon and attack the non-dreamers.

[camel filters]

penisical staircase

is this really the name for that optical illusion staircase??

[BriDen]

HAHAHAHHA slap's word-filter strikes again

[oyolar]

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penisical staircase

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is this really the name for that optical illusion staircase??

Haha. Damn it. I forgot about that since I haven't had to type "p@radox" in such a long time. Fuck it. It's better that way anyways.

[Sleazy]

Sleazy-Leo's character might be the only one who creates projections in other people's dreams (if we want to say they are other people's), but maybe that can be chalked up to the fact that he is extremely mentally unstable within the dreams. And there are examples of other people affecting the dream. Like when Levitt creates the my penisical staircase to get behind the projection chasing him in the hotel. He directly changes the make-up of the dream (I also wish they would have done more with that as well). I thought they didn't get too crazy with the dream worlds because if the dream worlds are too ridiculous, it becomes very easy for the dreamer's projections to realize the dream is being intruded upon and attack the non-dreamers.

actually, one of the main premises of the film is that you can alter the world of the dream you are in. so being able to alter the world doesn't mean you can create projections. the only person who came close was the guy that took the form of the other guy. but as far as projections, it was only leo who did that and it was only supposed to be the dream who could project. i'm fairly certain of that. leo explained that to ellen when they were walking down the street.

I thought this was Sleazy's point in comparing it to the Cell - for visuals rather than plotline.  The dream sequences in it were intricately detailed and absolutely gorgeous, and his argument was that Inception's don't match up to it very well.  I agree with this, but still thought the movie was great.

that was exactly the point i was trying to make. but then again this was more of heist film so maybe i let my expectations get the best of me and i actaully am not a fan of the heist genre save resevoir dogs.

and i agree with the main point of the review that you posted, however, i'd argue that this scene was more to reinforce the idea that people come to know their dream world as realities and prefer them. this was necessary to back up the idea of why leo and mal gut stuck in the first place. mal began to feel that this was her reality and that's why leo had to resort to inception to get her out. i just think that he didn't go far enough out and she made it out and that's why the film starts the way it does, in the middle of the story, like a dream with her trying to kill him.

[Clayton]

I got really high before watching it, which usually makes watching movies more awesome, but I felt so fucking lost half the time. Need to watch it again. Everyone is way more psyched than I am.

[Soul Doubt]

I just saw this and thought it added ti the genius of the movie.



I had no idea about the music before now.

[cops keep firing]

ok i just got back from watching it for the second time. this time i mentally went with a pen and pad and here are my observations (while they are still fresh in my mind):

there are three key instances in the film that lend themselves to the theory that cobb is dreaming the entire time.


1. in the opening scene in the film where cobb is washed up on the shore and he is dragged into saito's palace or whatever, there is a jump (with no explanation) from young cobb + old saito to young cobb + young saito. i think this is key because in the end of the film this is the place where cobb finds saito in "limbo" so what does it mean that he is there at the beginning of the film?

2. when cobb tries the serums that yusef provides while they are underground in mombasa. yusef gives cobb a shock which in the film it appears that he woke him up. i know people have already discussed that cobb never confirms reality from the totem but the really interesting part about this scene is that cobb is projecting the window blowing the curtains while he is in the bathroom. one of the same projections he has when he is "dreaming"...

3. in the final moments in the film when cobb stays behind to bring saito out of limbo. cobb and saito aren't shown dying here. saito picks up the gun and it is implied but much like in the first scene, it is just a jump. no explanation whatsoever. the only difference between the end in the beginning is at least something is implied when saito picks up the gun but there is no confirmation. so essentially when cobb opens his eyes on the plane it is only implied that he was shot and left limbo but YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW FOR CERTAIN.


***the last observation i was making all throughout the film is that the wedding ring also only implies when cobb is awake or dreaming. when you need the confirmation of the wedding ring to ascertain whether or not he is awake or dreaming, nolan doesn't show it. there are a few times in the movie when you want to know whether it is a dream or not and you can't base it on the wedding ring because you can't see it.


anyways, those are my observations for whatever they're worth. seeing it the second time was good because the initial excitement wasn't there and i was really able to focus my attention on the subtleties. i think the film is more than purposely deceptive to leave it open for multiple interpretations.

[Sleazy]

good shit

my wife also mentioned the projection after he woke from getting dosed. she thought he also saw mal though.

[alrightythen]

I gonna have to see this again. I think if you have your eyes open earlier in the movie its easier to make the connections. Anyone who go to see it agian, im deseperate to hear

[heckler]

It's definitely worth seeing again, when I first saw it I was trying to figure out what i just watched while taking in the movie at the same time. You notice a lot more of the details on the second viewing.

[Donkey Lips]

1. in the opening scene in the film where cobb is washed up on the shore and he is dragged into saito's palace or whatever, there is a jump (with no explanation) from young cobb + old saito to young cobb + young saito. i think this is key because in the end of the film this is the place where cobb finds saito in "limbo" so what does it mean that he is there at the beginning of the film?
tially when cobb opens his eyes on the plane it is only implied that he was shot and left limbo but YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW FOR CERTAIN.

He Tarantino'ed it. A piece of the ending of the story was told first, with a cut back to the prior events that bring you up to speed for the conclusion of the story. I don't think that was really implied to be taken for anything deeper than an interesting way to tell the story.

Your other points were pretty interesting though. Especially about the ring finger being hidden in the scenes where you'd need validation.

[bndla]

So much happened that i didnt fully get the movie. Maybe after second watch this will be my favourite flick

Oh yeah and casting Ellen Page was a mistake. I felt kinda awkward wathing her young face and childish body.

[camel filters]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/board/flat/167024711?p=1
i like this guys theory.

[era]

Soooo I don't know if it has been mentioned.  But anyone notice the LA ledge spot in the world that Leo and Mal built. 



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[Narcissus]

Such a sick movie, definitely confusing at times but not overwhelmingly so

I can't believe I'm the first one to mention that Mal's house in the final level is right beside that skate spot that Carroll skates in Modus (1:32 in)

I watched both Modus and Inception yesterday. Both are excellent.

[Narcissus]

[og.milk]

saw it three times, didn't get bored of it once. whoever said leonardo needs to stop being in multiple movies a year is on mescaline, leonardo is by far one of the greatest actors of the past 20 years.

[smokecrack]

i finally saw this last night and damn, did i enjoy it. my girl was saying it was boring during the first 20-30 minutes, but she sure got into it after a while. the only thing that bugged me a little was how the background score wouldn't stop during the first hour or so. i really liked the music, but i kinda felt like i didn't need a musical score during every damn scene. other than that, i loved the thing. i feel like i gotta see it again. nolan did an amazing job and of course, leo was in top form once again. i was also pleasantly surprised by ellen page and joseph gordon-levitt's performances. shit, everyone's acting in the movie was on point and i really liked the pacing of the movie. go see it if you haven't yet (and don't download it or watch a bootleg. see it in a theatre, imax or atleast a drive-in. it'll be worth it)

edit: thanks gus. i think that's the first time i've mistyped something, was called out on it and went back to fix my mistake.

[heckler]

I don't know if it's been brought up here or not, but one theory that I heard today was that the entire thing was a dream, and the purpose was to plant the idea that he didn't need to grieve for his wife's suicide any longer. Ellen Page was actually a therapist.

[boyan]

Just saw, a little late on this, but wow so stoked on this one

that movie was mindblowing, I like these movies where you have to think a bit about what's happening, without it getting too complicated. the level thing was pretty good portrayed

[illmatic]

[Jay E-Quails]

Amazed by this movie
first time in years I've gone to the theaters twice and left just as satisfied both times

[frisco]